Mat Franco joins the Trilogy Media Podcast for a raw, hilarious, and eye-opening conversation about fame, failure, and what really happens behind the scenes of America’s Got Talent.

Before winning AGT and landing a decade-long Las Vegas residency, Mat was nearly turned away at the door, wasn’t on the audition list, and only made it onstage because of a last-minute twist that changed everything. In this episode, he breaks down the moments you never see on TV—from the chaos of reality shows, to the pressure of live performances, to why “overnight success” is one of the biggest myths in entertainment.